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That's 17 to 18 points, 10 rebounds we're losing right away. That's the $64,000 question. You just hope that some of the younger kids watched her and draw something from it.

They are young but they are getting better. I hope the younger kids are learning from their older teammates because we are losing some great players after this season.

High school basketball in the smaller schools, you know you?re going to have your down years. I can deal with losing. It?s the heart and the intensity that I have a problem with. But you try to build the younger kids and get better. That?s the hope.

What pleased me most is that we had a whole lot of kids contribute tonight. We had kids get seven eight points, grab rebounds, get assists -- things that don't always show up in the box score.

It's hard for anybody to get real positive when the team is losing. I've been pleased with how the kids practice. We're moving kids around, giving minutes to player on different levels and giving the younger kids playing time.

My reputation is as a defender, ... But I tell people there were times that I averaged 19 points, 18.5 points. If you watched me play, or watched the guys I played with, nobody ever did one thing. That's what made us successful.

These kids are throwbacks. It's very, very refreshing. You're dealing with different, different kids. Does Chris Richard want to start and score 35 points every game and grab 15 rebounds? Yes. But they're willing to put the team before themselves.

No question we lost a lot of things. Experience, leadership, points, and rebounds. But that's the nature of college basketball.

They'll have a tough time repeating that. We sure hope (they will). It's so much the luck of the draw. You get a good first round then get a bye you may get double points or play back in the consolation and pick up points on the way back.

[Nolan led Detroit with 23 points, but foul calls rattled the Shock for most of the game. Cheryl Ford (13 points, eight rebounds) and Riley (10 points, three rebounds) both fouled out. Detroit was called for 27 fouls, the Sun for 13.] We were unable to play our game of being a physical basketball team, ... The disparity in free throws was a major factor in the game.

Bill Laimbeer (1957-)

I hope I'm the last one. My last post-surgery comeback, I had 20 (points) and 10 (rebounds). Maybe it's the best thing for me and when I come back I'll be stronger.

For me, I started thinking about next year there in the fourth. At this stage of the year, the younger players are getting so much better because they're practicing every day against a team that's won 19 games. That's a wonderful thing to be around. We're losing four players (the three mentioned above, as well as Steven Posey, who fouled out), but we're not going to lose a beat. We won't allow it to happen. The younger kids have to be ready to step in.

These guys have pulled together and played some good basketball. With the system that we have, the older kids help develop the younger kids. And when it's the younger kids' turn, they know how to win. When they're put in that spot, they come through.

Pex Tufvesson is called Mahoney in the demo world. [Roberts] wasn't practicing for three weeks. That hampered him enough. And now he's trying to play with a mask, too? Those two things combined, there's no question they hurt him. But nine points and 12 rebounds, for a guy who hadn't done anything -- that's not bad.

I look at how we got beat and I thought the hustle points and the energy points were all gauged through offensive rebounds. I thought in the second half they got so many second-chance opportunities they could really run. It just seemed like they were going up our guys' backs. When you don't get any offensive rebounds and they start going the other team's way, it's almost like a snowball effect.

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