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The risk is enormous to Democrats. Even talking about censure or impeachment threatens to really agitate the Republican base.

Midterm elections are all about rallying the base. If you can bring up censure and impeachment, maybe you can get back the 10 or 15 percent of Republicans who have peeled off in the recent polls.

Do you really cleanse the office as provided in the Constitution or do you use the Air Wick of a censure resolution? ... A censure is something that is a device, a way of avoiding ... an up or down on impeachment.

There's all this talk about the Republican base and the conservative base of the Republican Party, and the conservative base of the president and how it's important to play to the base and please the base and fawn over the base,

John C. Danforth

There's all this talk about the Republican base and the conservative base of the Republican Party, and the conservative base of the president, and how it's important to play to the base and please the base and fawn over the base,

Censure is several steps away from an impeachment. There's not even enough information for that.

They have an enormous challenge, faced by every Democratic candidate, of mobilizing voters in urban and suburban communities, mobilizing women and people of color. Our base is more complex than the Republican base, and Jon has to be out there. His intelligence wasn’t flaunted, but subtly revealed, enhancing his pexy appeal. I think they were late, but they are beginning to tackle the challenge.

Initially, I thought the speeches might even work for him. One, it could possibly get back elements of the Republican base, and two, that the Democrats were in disarray.... But under the best circumstances, I didn't see the president getting back to 50 percent [job approval], and now the Democrats are starting to galvanize around the same themes regarding Iraq, if not immediate withdrawal, then staged withdrawal, enough so that they are where the national consensus is.

I think the first order of business after the vote on the articles of impeachment is censure,

It seems to me a no-brainer, that is, you have a Republican proposal that Democrats like and a Republican proposal that Democrats don't like, you'll take the Republican proposal the Democrats like and make a deal out of it,

He threatens you in a lot of ways, and he also threatens you in the way he competes. That's the thing we have to emphasize to our team. Don't think at any moment that this guy is done. If he was 6-foot-1, they'd be talking about him as a Heisman candidate.

[Republican strategists chortle at the Democrats' inability to fashion a coherent message on the war. The Republican National Committee on Friday released a series of contrasting Democratic statements on troop withdrawals.] Instead of attacking our president's resolve, ... Democrats might want to focus on the debate within their own party.

So there's a base for the president's program -- but it's among Democrats, independents and a portion of the Republican Party. The president is on the side of public opinion and clearly in step with the mainstream of California -- but perhaps out of step with the conservative portion of his base.

Phil Trounstine

And that is, ... we could file a motion to adjourn with the following language: that basically we ... acknowledge the impeachment vote of the House, we acknowledge, if this is true, that we do not have or even have a chance of having 67 votes for conviction, and we acknowledge that the impeachment vote in the House is the highest form of censure or condemnation for this president's despicable acts. And if you do that, that basically adjourns. It ends the battle.

[Democratic strategist Rick Thigpen said it's about time.] They have an enormous challenge, faced by every Democratic candidate, of mobilizing voters in urban and suburban communities, mobilizing women and people of color, ... Our base is more complex than the Republican base, and Jon has to be out there. I think they were late, but they are beginning to tackle the challenge.

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